believing. However, Baptists do hold some common beliefs among almost all Baptist churches. 2:14-15). Baptism then salvation. I feel like I know about as Others say salvation is by grace alone. Mark 16:16 God's way: Believe - Baptize - Saved, Acts 2:38 God's way: Repent - Baptized - Remission, Rom. Baptist Doctrine contradicts the Bible in fact. He can come short of the promise of God (Heb. 6:17-18 God's way: In sins - Obeyed - Then free. He can be moved away from the hope (Col. 1:23). And to all this I say, bullshit. The Baptist Church fails to take into consideration that salvation is conditional and depends upon what we do about the matter. The people at the house of Oh, yeah, and homosexuality is still bad too.”. The Baptist tradition, along with other traditions of Christianity, acknowledges the existence of evil and the reality of human suffering. Until the SBC abandons complementarianism, women should not expect meaningful change, nor should they accept the bones the men who are running the show throw their way. had been a clergyman in the Church of England, in 1607 (Benedict's History of The Baptists, p. 304). A “high view” of Scripture uses Scripture’s own self-description: inspired, and useful for teaching and correction (2 Timothy 3:16). Bruce Gerencser, 61, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 40 years. Cornelius were told that they had to fear God and work righteousness to be accepted with God. 4:1). 3:12). 4:1). Thanks to recent revelations about Paige Patterson and Andy Savage, along with allegations leveled against Frank Page, the SBC has decided to get “serious” about sexual abuse and how women, in general, are treated by SBC churches, pastors, and denominational leaders. We are saved by Spirit but some may do despite unto it (Heb. they fail to recognize that salvation is conditional; and they fail to recognize what a child-of God can do. 10:29). Church rejects every word the Bible says about being baptized. these matters if we expect to go to heaven when we die. The Southern Baptist Convention is holding its annual shindig this year in Dallas, Texas. 15:1-3). 3:5); to be baptized is to put on Christ (Gal. Modern Baptist churches trace their history to the English Separatist movement in the 1600s, the century after the rise of the original Protestant denominations. Copyright © 2020 The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser – Powered by Flywheel. As you can see, nothing has changed. 2:21). saved? He can fail of the grace of God (Heb. We are saved if we keep in memory . (Luke 7:29); people reject the counsel of God when they refuse to be baptized (Luke 7:30); to be baptized is to be born of water (John Stick around and read a bit Gigi. I have long studied varieties of Calvinism—from mainline Reformed theologies to nearly cultic Calvinist theologies. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Ditto politicians and bureaucrats – left, right & center. government, but their doctrine of the church is widely different from ours. He heard the word and rendered obedience unto it, including being baptized the same hour of the night. We are saved by love but some may not keep in the love (Jude 21). On this subject the Baptist Church makes three fatal mistakes. The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination is blatantly pulling scripture out of context, misinterpreting it, and manipulating so that is supports this doctrine. The Philippian Jailor was told that he could be saved by Well-intentioned, perhaps, but illicit drug use continues unabated, and something tells me that SBC preachers with a mind to cheat on their wives will continue to do so. Jesus said teach and baptize the people (Matt. Top Posters. Messengers passed a resolution condemning adulterous affairs by pastors. Coarse language ahead! (Baptist Church Manual, Article IV of the Declaration of Faith, p. 47). 3:17). But he that believeth not shall be damned." The people on the Day of Pentecost heard the word preached, believed it, repented and much as anybody about the Baptist Church and its teachings. Let me quote what the Bible says about your behavior:“ Spouting off before listening to the facts is both shameful and foolish.” Proverbs 18:13. That, of course, is the first thing wrong (Titus 3:5); baptism puts one into the one body of Christ (1 Cor. Yet they are described as people who believed (Acts 2:44; 4:32). John 3:16, Acts 10:43, Ephesians In 2007, messengers were asked to approve establishing a national database of pastors, evangelists, missionaries, and other church leaders who have been accused and/or convicted of sexual abuse and other sex related crimes. Would God reverse the correct order every time it is mentioned in His Thankfully, a renewed emphasis on Baptist doctrine, practice and heritage is underway. Resolutions such as this one are feel-good measures; all the while at home, SBC pastors are “feeling good” too, but that’s because they are having oh-so awesome extramarital motel sex. salvation depend altogether upon what disposition we make of these blessings. Why? Let conflict spring up in the church — Baptists love to fight — and all those non-attending “members” will be front and center to cast their vote on the issue at hand. The trend shifting Baptist identity from its Anabaptist, free church tradition to a reformed evangelical identity. The 6:9). He can depart from the faith (1 Tim. Baptists are supporters of religious freedom. It’s ALWAYS about power and control – and always has been. God had said many years earlier, that they should not touch any holy thing lest they die. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. We are saved by blood but some may count the blood unholy (Heb. Baptism then salvation. I can see that you were a member of the Baptist Church but not a born again Christian. and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." He can deny the Lord that bought him (2 Pet. You have been warned. You read ONE @&$@#% post before going all-Jesus on me. You can do everything in the New Testament and you still This view of Baptist origins has the most historical support and is the most widely accepted. David was concerned about the matter and began to consider what caused the tragedy. He can count the blood of the covenant unholy (Heb. Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Jacob Dahlen, May 8, 2006. 15:1-2). Once again we can see that the Bible is wrong every time it mentions these matters, or the Baptist Church is wrong every time they thereof in the Bible. Luke 3:3 - "And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." Doctrine matters in the church (Titus 2:1). Please share your thoughts in the comment section. However, it was interesting to see that the Baptists continue to ignore a long standing problem within their own ranks while they address the problems inherent in the Mormon religion. Wouldn't it be good if people would be willing just to take what God's Baptism then That number grows many times when one looks at Baptists worldwide. Thank you for reading this post. If you are a first-time commenter, please read the commenting policy before wowing readers with your words. 3:17). They change the order every time. This is because I participate in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com. Tit 2:3-5 Therefore, the Baptist doctrine of ‘Women Deacons and Preachers’ is false doctrine. He can be cast forth as a branch and be burned (John 15:1-6). We shall never fall if we do these things (2 Pet. we may see what the "divine order" really is: Mark 1:4 - "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins." Then they were commanded to be baptized in the name of the Lord (Acts He can turn from the holy commandment (2 Pet. 10:29). Baptist beliefs and practices are not consistent. But the word "faith" is a comprehensive term many times when used in the anger of the Lord was kindled against him and He smote him that he died. Baptist Church. But about nine out of every ten Baptists, over 26,000,000, live in the United States. Understanding and Helping Those Who Live With Chronic Pain, Bruce, What’s Your View of the “Atheist Community?”, If God is Love, He Has a Funny Way of Showing It. baptism is for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38); baptism is to wash away sins (Acts 22:16); people justify God when they are baptized Yet again, the statement of Chillingworth, “The Bible, and the Bible alone, the religion of Protestants,” is widely different from the Baptist principle, “The New Testament, the only law of Christianity.” Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. We are cleansed if we walk in the light (1 John 1:7). THAT went over well. Thus the unmistakable divine order is baptism then salvation. Hebrews 5:8-9 records that Christ, through His sufferings, became the author of salvation to all them that obey Him. Baptist Concern over Church Problems. everlasting destruction. ... We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless! And 3:27); to be baptized is to get into Christ (Rom. Baptism (1 Cor. When we look at the New Testament concerning baptism and salvation, we find that the due (divine) order is baptism then salvation We are saved by grace but some may fail of the grace of God (Heb. BAPTISTS today number into the millions. We are saved by hope but some may be moved away from the hope (Col. 1:23). 10:29). Coarse language ahead! The messengers have spoken! PROBLEMS WITH THE DOCTRINE OF SOLA SCRIPTURA. what we do about the matter. God was concerned that He be sought after the due order. A “no” vote will tell everyone that the SBC doesn’t really want to know what’s going on in their churches; that is unless a church tries to ordain a woman or gay man. enough to be understood by all. But history (even Baptist History) records that the first Baptist Church of record was formed by John Smythe, who He can fall into condemnation (Jas. The increasingly Fundamentalist SBC will continue to treat women as second-class citizens. Because the Baptist Church is wrong about the matter. Not only was the Baptist Church started by the wrong man at the wrong place and at the wrong time, but the plan of salvation espoused I have decided to set forth some of the things I consider to be wrong with So don’t go feeling sorry for Bruce, nor anyone else who has thrown away the yoke that is religion, and replaced it with reason. Amazon disclosure: Some pages on this site have links to products on Amazon.When you click through these links, I get a small commission from your purchase -- and you don't have to pay a bit more! They fail to recognize that we can nulify that by which we are saved; remission. command (Acts 10:48); we are baptized so as to walk a new life (Rom. He can perish if he is weak (1 Cor. Although Baptists routinely deal with critical issues, at least five rise to the top in 2005. 2:2-4; Luke 24:46-49; Zech. In 1994, the Baptist General Convention of Texas established the Baptist Distinctives Committee and Texas Baptist Heritage Center to provide information and inspiration about Baptist beliefs and polity. That’s the point, because one day Jesus will divide the sheep from the goats. 12:13 God's way: By one Spirit - Baptized Into one body, Man's way: By one Spirit - Into one body - Baptized, Col. 2:12 God's way: Dead - Baptized - Risen with Him, Man's way: Dead - Risen with Christ Baptized, Matt. He can forsake the right way (2 Pet. It doesn't take a Solomon to see that these blessings are based upon what we do about them. 6. During the last several years, I have met Baptist preachers in public debate more than twenty-five times. Bruce, You Are Blindly Following the Media. The If you would like to contact Bruce directly, please use the contact form to do so. answer of a good conscious toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." So it took obedience to constitute the kind of believing that is indicated. Arise and be baptized and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." One of the five principles necessary for Christian belief, according to the Conference of Conservative Protestants that met in Niagara Falls in 1896, was the physical, bodily return of Jesus (the other four being biblical inerrancy, the virgin birth, the divinity of Jesus and substitutionary atonement). Resolutions will be offered up, and some will pass, and, happy as a seal with fish, Baptists will say, SEE, we took care of our sexual abuse problem; we changed how women will be treated in the future. The record says they News sites routinely report that the Southern Baptist Convention has 15 million members. Complementarianism will continue to be the official doctrine of the Convention. Bible. It's pretty much something that I used to mistaken Baptist preachers like John Macarthur and Paul Washer (who I pray will revive the Southern Baptist Convention soon) to be works salvation preachers, legalistic or whatsoever until I began reading through John Macarthur's book "The Gospel According to Jesus" … 3:27 God's way: As many as - Baptized - Put on Christ, Man's way: As many as - Put on Christ Baptized, 1 Cor. Bruce Gerencser, 63, lives in rural Northwest Ohio with his wife of 42 years. 7. Problems with inerrancy. Ten thousand messengers (delegates) will fuss and fight with each other over doctrine, culture, and who should run the denomination’s institutions. The nature of Baptist life feeds disagreement and diversity. Of course, this same resolution reminded women that could only serve the church in “Biblically appropriate ways.” The resolution also reminded women that they were to submit themselves to their husbands as unto the Lord. with the things by which we are saved. with it. When a Bible-believing Baptist looks to Hillsong for ideas on relevancy and relatability, the Baptist is not looking to a church of like faith and practice. 5:19). about it. I pray that you will have a relationship with JesusChrist and go to heaven. 28:19 God's way: Teach - Baptize - Teach, John 3:5 God's way: Water - Spirit - Enter kingdom, Man's way: Spirit - Enter kingdom Water (baptism), Titus 3:5 God's way: Saved us - Washing Renewing of Holy Ghost, Man's way: Saved us - Renewing of Holy Ghost -Washing, Rom. Then, by God, their Baptist boners are at full attention, ready to screw anyone who dares to be anything but a conservative cisgender male who has sex in the missionary position. We shall reap if we faint not (Gal. If you live in Northwest Ohio and would like to hire Bruce, please email him. . The roots of Southern Baptist history go back to the Baptist churches established in the American colonies in the 17th century.By 1891, the SBC formed its own Sunday School Board, headquartered in Nashville, Tennessee. Then he is described We are saved by gospel but some may believe it in vain (1 Cor. 4:1). Messengers also passed a resolution emphasizing the dignity of women and lamenting how women have been treated in SBC churches. In 1 Chronicles 13, 14, and 15 we have the incident of the moving of the ark of God from one place to another. . Question: "What is Landmarkism? The Southern Baptist Convention is holding its annual shindig this year in Dallas, Texas. We are saved by promise but some may come short of it (Heb. Today, in the United States alone, there are more than 50 Baptist groups or sub-groups. That's right, the Bible doesn't mention the Baptist Church. The Lordship controversy and misrepresenting the Lordship preachers. It will be interesting to see how serious SBC churches really are about predatory, criminal pastors in their midst. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. by Charles W. Deweese. founded in A.D. 33. Bruce, Are Your Wife and Children Atheists? It is because of this belief of separation and exclusivism that they teach that Christians should be as completely separate from the world as possible. “We care about the women so let’s double down on our complementarian doctrine, remind women of their place, and remind men that having affairs is naughty. One-time donations can be made through PayPal. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. Perhaps it is time for Southern Baptist women to rise up and say FUCK YOU to their handlers and move on to women-affirming denominations. the wrong man to be the New Testament Church. 2:8-9, and a host of other verses attest to salvation by faith. Others say one is saved by faith without further acts of obedience. 3:6). The first thing that strikes me when writing concerning the Baptist Church is that the Bible knows nothing about it and says nothing 12:15). For more information about Bruce, please read the About page. He can depart from the living God (Heb. In short, the Baptist Church teaches you don't do anything to be saved and then that you can't do anything to be lost. 3:14-18). Acts 22:16 - "And now why tarriest thou? transgress the doctrine of Christ to find out how to become a member of the Baptist Church. He can be led away with error of the wicked (2 Pet. on becoming a child of God. Facing some persecution for their own belief in believer’s baptism, Baptists endured fines, harassment and sometimes jail time. These issues—speaking in tongues, not believing in eternal security, and an unwillingness to stand against moral sins—are significant issues. Indeed, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) stands out as a large, old American denomination that is not in demographic collapse — at least … Baptism then remission. This is plain We are saved by truth but some may err from the truth (Jas. Doctrine divides so that true unity can take place. The original Baptist Faith and Message described it as authoritative in matters of faith and practice. Yes. Thus, God has said He will save the obedient and will punish the disobedient. Conclusion: The challenge is in the court of all who preach, teach, and obey the false doctrine of the Baptist church. We are disciples indeed if we continue in the word (John 8:31). Guardian of Truth XXVII: 4, pp. were baptized. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)–Recently there’s been much discussion about the issue of tongues in Southern Baptist life. One of my first steps as pastor was to clean up the roll, sending letters to everyone on the roll, reminding them that membership required regular church attendance. These issues have the potential to disrupt forward progress; frankly, they have already contributed to such disruption. They teach once in grace always in grace, or final security for the believer. Baptist roots date back four centuries to a people seeking the opportunity to worship God as individual members of freely organized and freely functioning local churches. I know individuals who believe in the gift of tongues and … mention them. The Baptist Church was started by the wrong person, at the wrong time, and at the wrong place to be the New Testament church. The Baptist Faith & Message of 2000, the denomination’s comprehensive confession of faith and doctrine, already asserts a form of “complementarianism” (men and women are equal but have different roles), but some strains of Calvinism go a step further. Some say one may be saved by praying. He concluded that God had made the breach upon The only conclusion to be drawn here is that the Baptist Church is wrong in its approach to this matter. 10:47). You have been warned. 5. They have a double standard and will teach or practice things which are convenient at the time, even if not consistent with their core beliefs! The problem with this is that, while it may seem to be a subtle difference from the biblical doctrine of salvation by grace through faith, it is in fact a crucially important difference. The Problem with Calvinism is Fundamentalism. every time they are mentioned together. The Baptist Church Is Unknown To The Word Of God. Read Bruce’s story. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! this religious organization. 4:11). He can turn aside after Satan (1 Tim. Baptist Church teaches a plan of salvation unknown to the word of God. Baptists always have maintained the need for autonomous congregations, responsible for articulating their own doctrine… The denomination also places special focus on fulfilling the Great Commission through missionary efforts. It cannot! He can fall after the same example of unbelief (Heb. Donations are always appreciated. The Missionary Baptist Church is a Protestant denomination with distinct beliefs about the identity of the church. Many passages could be cited to substantiate that fact. And of course, VP Pence shows up to give his stamp of approval. We are saved by HOPE, (Rom. 2:1). And as sure as the sun comes up in the morning, misogynistic pastors will continue to use the Bible to beat Baptist women into submission. The Southern Baptist Convention tells us about the Baptist view of baptism: “Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Baptist Church ignores every thing the Bible says about what a child of God can do. 6:3); baptism is a part of regeneration Good works are the inevitable result of salvation (Ephesians 2:10). The Father will honor us if we serve Christ (John 12:26). 8:11). Baptism then remission. Had you been born in Iran you would be worshipping Allah, just as convinced of your belief as you are in ‘this life’. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. The series coincides with “Baptist Doctrine Study” week within the Southern Baptist Convention. since the first Baptist Church was founded in 1607 it was founded at the wrong time to be the New Testament church since it was 10:29). Salvation is by faith and it cannot be denied. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. The Baptists had plenty to say about Mormonism, especially at the pastors' conference which … He and his wife have six grown children and twelve grandchildren. When they came 6:4); and baptism is a part of believing in Christ (Acts 19:1-5). In the end, it’s all about power and control. The diminishing of the doctrine of autonomy and freedom of the local church under the leadership of the Holy Spirit. But all Baptists deny that salvation comes through obedience to Christ, which puts them in The Baptist Church nullifies every thing the New Testament says about what we may do 1.) things would he still be saved? The Baptist Church does not seek God after the due (divine) order. and propagated by the Baptist Church is also wrong. The Baptist Church perverts every thing the New Testament says in the Then they were told that they could have to a certain place, the oxen stumbled and the -ark was in danger of being thrown out of the cart; so Uzza put his hands on the ark. The trend toward Calvinism and mistrust of personal Christian experience. We are holy if we continue in the faith (Col. 1:23). You cannot find, in the Bible, how to become a member of the then sins washed away. Here’s the truth behind this statistic. The Baptist Church misinterprets and misapplies every word the Bible says in their teaching Baptist schools offer courses on Baptist identity. Aligning with Thomas Jefferson, early Baptists held strongly to a view that supported religious liberty. 5:12). Bruce is a local photography business owner, operating Defiance County Photo out of his home. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. "Deadly Contrast" which I have drawn. 4:1). remission of sins through faith (belief) in God (Acts 10:43). "We believe that the salvation of sinners is WHOLLY of grace." We should be willing to take exactly what the Bible says about 28:19); Jesus said, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved" (Mark 16:16); If one should do all of these things would he still be saved? We are the Lord's house if we hold fast (Heb. Southern Baptist Men 6,022 Years Ago, Still Holding to the “Truth” Today. 1:16; Acts 2), the Baptist Church was founded at the wrong place to be the New Testament Church. wrong every time and that it should be salvation then baptism. Ten thousand messengers (delegates) will fuss and fight with each other over doctrine, culture, and who should run the denomination’s institutions. 2:1). There is another thing on which the Baptist Church is wrong. And what effect with this resolution have? 114-116February 17, 1983. It is easy to see that the love of God, the truth of God, the grace of God, the promise of God, and all the other things that enter into our Baptists do not have a central governing authority, and Baptist beliefs are not completely consistent from one Baptist church to another. I’m Not Preaching Now, I’m Telling the Truth, Short Stories: The Preacher Goes to the XXX Movie House, Fundamentalist Pastor JD Hall Brags About Breaking the Law. The Baptist Church fails to take into consideration that salvation is conditional and depends upon Bruce, Did You Encourage Church Members to Think for Themselves? If you have experienced the new birth , you would not be an atheist. Bagpipes, anyone? The “godly” messengers said “no.” That’s right, they said “no.” Eleven years later, this issue will be brought to the floor once again. 1:10). Oh wait, do I hear the strains of no real Scotsman? All first-time comments are moderated. I feel sorry for you. The first Baptist Church in Every bit as born again as you. Actually, it would be difficult to put down the exact position of the Baptist Church word? Adherents to this position consider the influence of Anabaptists upon early Baptists to be minimal. But further, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 records that those who do not obey the gospel will be punished with If he did part of these things would he be saved? Word says? 12:13); God operates on one in baptism (Col. 2:12); baptism is a Nearly every country has at least a small Baptist community. Isn’t there a saying that insanity is in doing the same things repeatedly and expecting different results? to meet them and you already have fallen! Imagine Pastor I. LvJesus at First Baptist Church in Anywhere, Alabama hearing of this resolution and saying, Well, Sister B. Submissive, I guess we need to quit having sex in my office. We are saved by enduring but some may not endure (Matt. The Holy Spirit is no match for sexual desire, especially with sex that has a bit of danger attached. 8:24), and Peter said BAPTISM saves us, (1 Peter 3:21). Pr… Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. as a believer (Acts 16:30-34). concerning the final security of the believer. 15:2). The Baptist Church ignores every thing the Bible says about what a child of God can do. We are saved by Lord but some may deny the Lord (2 Pet. In 2003, I pastored a small Southern Baptist church in Clare, Michigan. You have to go onward and abide not in the doctrine of Christ to find anything about the Baptist Church. The three passages cited are cases in point. He can be spoiled through deceit (Col. 2:8). 6:2-4 God's way: Die to sin - Baptized - Arise to new life, Man's way: Die to sin - Arise to new life - Baptized, Gal. Gigi, it is but by an accident of birth that you are, never mind a Baptist, but even a Christian. I've encountered many times of Baptist and also visited some Baptist churches. I will reproduce the Scriptures that mention baptism and salvation (or its equivalent) together so He can do despite unto the Spirit if grace (Heb. Mark 16:16 - "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. 4. carried the ark in a new cart. 1 Peter 3:21 - "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh but the Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding. Baptists disagree about everything; sometimes, that causes organizational rupture and the multiplication of new Baptist bodies. Answer: Landmark theology, or heritage theology, is the belief among some independent Baptist churches that only local, independent Baptist congregations can truly be called “churches” in the New Testament sense. What is “Baptist Bride” theology?" We are saved by God but some may depart from God (Heb. Fail If he did only one of these The Baptist And of course, since the New Testament Church was to be built in Jerusalem, (Isa. He can fall from his steadfastness (2 Pet. New Testament Church? 5:15). Meet the conditions and you can't fail. Acts 2:38 - "Then Peter said unto them, repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, Let us notice these three things: We are saved by faith but some may depart from the faith (1 Tim. Yes, doctrine does divide. them because they "sought him not after the due order" (I Chron. It had dozens of families on its membership roll who no longer attended the church. Jesus said, in Matthew 16:18, "I will build my church..." Thus we have no trouble finding the New Testament church and the founder (part of the Baptist Heritage in the 21st Century Pamphlet Series). 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